Typo3 Help

[hovanic]

Hi, I am basically a complete noob when it comes to installing anything on my website, and I was wondering if someone could help me with install typo3 on my site. I was reading the noob directions on the typo3 site, and even they seem confusing to me :eek:.



Download testsite-3.x.x.zip from for example http://typo3.sunsite.dk/zip-archives/ Upload the contents of this file to your PHP4 webserver. Tip: The zip-file contains thousands of files, so if you're able to unzip the file on the server, better do that! Hit the site with your browser and follow the Install Tool. The Install Tool will help ou to 1) setup MySQL username/password/database, 2) dump any default database content and 3) check the configuration of you PHP-installation for compatibility. After the Install Tool, you should seriously consider to protect the folder typo3/install/ with a password or simply delete it.




1) Well, this is one thing I understand
2) Where do I extract this to
3) What does hit the site mean :confused:
4) How do I password protect a folder

Any help you can give me will be appreciated.

[sjlplat]

You don't have to install Typo3 yourself. Log in to cPanel, then click the Fantastico icon. You can have cPanel install it for you.

[mojojuju]

Hi, I am basically a complete noob when it comes to installing anything on my website, and I was wondering if someone could help me with install typo3 on my site.

Not to discourage you, but if you're a noob when it comes to installing scripts, then installing and configuring TYPO3 is not going to be a smooth ride.

If you're serious about TYPO3, it will take some time to learn, but it is well worth it. I decided to learn TYPO3 rather than another CMS because I knew that TYPO3 can do anything I could possibly want to do. I didn't want to invest time learning another system which may not be able to expand to my future needs.

If you need to have a web site up by this evening or within a few days and you don't have experience in installing scripts, you'd be better off downloading and installing another, more end user friendly system, like Joomla.

If you're determined to install TYPO3, the best instructions can be found here:

http://wiki.typo3.org/index.php/Typo3_Installation_Basics

Note that those instructions do not apply to the Quickstart and Testsite packages, as those aren't maintained anymore.

To download the latest stable version of TYPO3, you can go to:
http://typo3.org/download/packages/

I'd stay away from installing anything from Fantastico in cPanel, as the versions of software available there are usually not up to date.

TYPO3 runs great on Hostmonster. It's generally consumes a lot of resources. I've noticed that it runs much faster on Hostmonster than on other hosts such as Dreamhost, for instance, where pages take about 20 seconds to generate.

One caveat though, which is actually a benefit in some ways:

When you install TYPO3, the main index.php file is a symbolic link to the actual index.php file, which resides outside of the web root. Hostmonster doesn't allow symbolic linking to this file. The simplest workaround is to just create a file called "index.php" with an include statement with the path to the index.php file which would otherwise be symbolically linked to.

This is the only difference in installing TYPO3 on Hostmonster as opposed to installing it on other hosts. Otherwise, it installs and runs without a hitch on Hostmonster.

But if you're going to get into TYPO3, you're going to have to be willing to learn and pull your hair out a bit. It's an amazing CMS and well worth the learning curve.

[hovanic]

So, do I need shell access in order to install it then? From reading the first few installation processes it seems I do. Right now I don't have shell access, so I guess I will have to send them my identification.

[mojojuju]

Yes, you'll need shell access. I've used some workarounds to install TYPO3 on servers that don't provide shell access, but they're not pretty.

[hovanic]

Okay, well I just got my shell activated, but I have one question...how do I use it? My operating system is linux, so I know how to use a terminal but I have no idea how to use a shell. I am assuming I have to connect to something, but I don't know what I am supposed to connect to.

[mojojuju]

Okay, well I just got my shell activated, but I have one question...how do I use it? My operating system is linux, so I know how to use a terminal but I have no idea how to use a shell.

Ok, you're familiar with linux. That's good, so you'll be able to do things just fine.


I am assuming I have to connect to something, but I don't know what I am supposed to connect to.

If you're on a linux machine, here's how you would SSH to your hosting account:

For this example, we'll assume that your domain is example.com, that your hostmonster username is userguy, and that your password is secretpassword.

So, assuming you're using linux, open up a terminal window (xterm, or whatever you use) and at the command prompt, type the following command:


ssh -l userguy example.com

You may see a message that says something like "The authenticity of host 'example.com' can't be established, are you sure you want to continue connecting (yes/no)?"

If you see that message, just type "yes" and hit <enter>

You'll be prompted for your password; enter your password.

Once you enter your password, you're logged in to the server at Hostmonster where you can move around the directories in your account and run a lot of commands, pretty much most any standard shell command is gonna work here (ls, cd, pwd, mv...) and you can also install alot of different software, even compile software. SSH access is the main reason (along with unlimited domains) that I use Hostmonster.

[hovanic]

Great man, thanks for the help. Now I hopefully will be able to install typo3.

[hovanic]

Well...I just started and there is a problem already:eek: when I try to tar the src package an error pops up saying too many levels of symbolic links. You wouldn't happen to know why it says this would you?



tar xzpvf typo3_src-4.1.1.tar.gz
tar: gzip: Cannot exec: Too many levels of symbolic links
tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
tar: Child returned status 2
tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors

[mojojuju]

I have never seen that error, but from what I've read, it may be that something has sent tar into a loop. If you've made any symbolic links (`ln -s` command) previous to running tar it may be a good idea to delete those symbolic links.

[hovanic]

Well I never made any symbolic links, the first command I issued when I got shell access was the tar.

[hovanic]

Ok, I managed to get that problem fixed. I opened up a ticket and hostmonster fixed the problem for me. However, now I seem to have encountered another problem. After following the tutorial, I got to the section where I was supposed to create a symlink to another file. So I did that and then I tried to access the website, where it was supposedly going to redirect me to the install tool. Well I got a 500 Server error, and then I read down the tutorial and at the bottom of the symlink section it said:



(1) Important: Starting with TYPO3 4.0beta3 this symlink should point to typo3_src/index.php.

(2) Important: Starting with TYPO3 4.0beta3 these symlinks are not needed anymore.


Is this what is causing the server error? If so, how do I undo a symlink?

[hovanic]

Oh, and this is what I did by the way:




[~/www]# cd dummy-4.1.1
[~/www/dummy-4.1.1]# mv * ..
[~/www/dummy-4.1.1]# cd ..
[~/www]# rm typo3_src
[~/www]# ln -s ./typo3_src-4.1.1 typo3_src
[~/www]# ls -l


All help is appreciated.

[mojojuju]

You have an error in making your symbolic link.

Instead of the line
[~/www]# ln -s ./typo3_src-4.1.1 typo3_src, it should be
[~/www]# ln -s ../typo3_src-4.1.1 typo3_src.

The difference is the two dots instead of one.

So, go ahead and do a

[~/www]# rm typo3_srcAnd then recreate the symbolic link, using correct syntax:

[~/www]# ln -s ../typo3_src-4.1.1 typo3_srcNow you won't get that 500 error.

[hovanic]

Ok, it doesn't do the error anymore, but now when I go to my site it simply goes to the index of files. Is this because of the index.php symbolic link problem you were telling me about? If so, what do I do to fix it? I understand I have to delete the index.php symbolic link in the root, but what should I put in the new one?